Posted by: tvasailor | May 24, 2012

Overview “Known Unknowns”

New 4/8/2021-ACS 2021 Presentation:  GC-MS and LC-MS Identifications with NIST Search and Commercial/User Libraries

New 1/2/2021:  FREE Courses for Unknown Identification Using NIST Search and EI and MS/MS (Tandem) Libraries

New 11/1/2020:  Differences in EI GC Orbitrap and Standard Quadrupole Spectra

Systematic Process for the Identification of “Known Unknowns” in Commercial Products by GC-MS and LC-MS

Note: Details on other subjects are found in “My Topics” tab under sailboat picture above or on the sidebar links to the right..

Introduction:  In the last 34 years, we have developed a systematic process for the identification of “known unknowns” by GC-MS and LC-MS in commercial products.  We define “known unknowns” as non-targeted species which are known in the chemical literature or mass spectrometry reference databases, but unknown to the investigator.  The process is shown in the following simplified flowchart:


This process is described in detail in the February 2013 copy of LCGC, “MS-The Practical Art.”  The article is entitled:  “Identifying “Known Unknowns” in Commercial Products by Mass Spectrometry.”  A copy with associated ads is shown below:

LCGC PDF with Advertisements

The article originated from work presented at Pittcon in 2012.  The approach uses either NIST libraries or “spectraless” databases such as the CAS Registry or ChemSpider.  The “spectraless” ones are discussed at the bottom of this post.types_of_databases_searchesNIST Search of EI and CID Spectra:  The initial step in our process utilizes computer searches of EI (GC-MS) or CID (LC-MS) spectra against reference databases using the NIST MS search.

I have developed two free “webinar” series courses that detail the use of the NIST search with EI and tandem libraries for the identification of unknowns:

Link to free webinar courses

The computer EI searches normally work better than CID ones, but the latter are still very useful.  We employ both purchased, in-house, and “crowd-sourced” libraries.  The MoNA “crowd-sourced” libraries in NIST EI and Tandem formats are found at the following link:

MoNA EI and Tandem Libraries in NIST format

We use the NIST and Wiley commercial databases, but there are many other specialty databases that others might find useful.

The NIST search interfaces easily with a wide variety of manufacturers’ data processing and structural drawing programs:


“Spectra-Less” Database Searching:  If the NIST search is not successful, then accurate mass data is used to obtain a molecular formula (MF), a monoisotopic mass, or an average molecular weight.  This data is used to search very large databases such as the CAS Registry or ChemSpider  via web interfaces.  We define them as “spectra-less” databases because they contain no computer-searchable mass spectral data.  We had originally used this approach to search the TSCA database or our Eastman Chemical plant material listing.

The candidate structures from the CAS Registry or ChemSpider searches are prioritized by either the number of associated references or key words.  Other ancillary information such as mass spectral fragments in EI or CID spectra; isotopic abundances, UV spectra; types of ion adductsCI data; number of exchangeable protons;  etc. are used to narrow the list to one structure.  This website has many screenshots (SciFinder1, SciFinder2, ChemSpider) that illustrate these approaches with many examples.

Model EI and CID Spectra from NIST Structure Search:  The NIST MS Search program ranks model compounds employing structural searching of both our commercial and in-house databases.  This is particularly valuable for finding model compounds for a proposed structure found in searches of “spectra-less” databases such as the CAS Registry and ChemSpider.

As noted in the table above, there are ~800,000 structures associated with the EI spectra and 100,000 structures with CID mass spectra in our computer-searchable databases.  We use the NIST MS Interpreter  program to automatically correlate fragment ions in the EI and CID spectra with the component’s substructure.

“No Results” from Process:  There will be non-targeted species in the sample which are “unknown unknowns”, those not found in any reference libraries or “spectra-less” databases.  A few thoughts on their identification are discussed in another section.

Future Improvements Needed:  The approach works well for the majority of our samples which are fairly simple and contain components with molecular weights <500 daltons.  On the other hand, improvements are needed for complex samples and components with molecular weights >500 daltons.

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Sold the whole package to an individual at Lake Waccamaw on 10/15/2021. They have a fleet of Holders.

I have decided to sail my two Holder 20’s and all my associated equipment. I once had 4 of these boats and enjoyed them all. Due to travel plans next year, I have decided to start crewing on a J24 when in town, and thus, no longer need the boats.

However, really want to find them a good home where they will be used in one-design racing. I would rather not sell to someone who would paint bottoms and leave them in the water.

The long cockpit Holder 20, Godspeed, is my favorite Holder of the four that I have owned. See the following specification sheet and a link to some pictures. Feel free to make an offer. I need to finish the sailing season on November 13, 2021 before I let this boat go to its new home. After that date, I will pull the boat off the air-lift and store on a trailer in Elizabethon, TN. Price $4,750.

Spec Sheet and Price

Pictures of Boat and Trailer for Godspeed

The short cockpit Holder is a solid boat but just does not have the higher quality hardware added to Godspeed. The fiberglass cleans up nicely and has little or “spidering.” Trailer has new tires within the last 2 years. Price $2,500

-in my opinion, the best type of masts found on Holder 20’s, the black one with a “hinged” base, see pictures
-new windvane “in the box” (remind me to give to you)
-SLO mylar racing main very good shape
-SLO mylar 135 genoa very good shape
-SLO spinnaker very good shape
-grey SLO tent for cockpit
-tapered spinnaker pole requires no harness

Pictures of Boat and Trailer

Other Miscellaneous Items for Sale

-Sailbot Race Horn works with Apple Products Bluetooth (like new $300)
-Holder 20 Waters racing jib very good shape $380
-Holder 20 Waters 135 racing genoa very good shape ($430)
-Holder 20Waters racing main very good shape ($480)
-SLO racing 155 genoa good shape ($430)
-Nissan 4 cycle outboard 2.5 HP, no reverse, just forward and neutral, turn motor to reverse, like new, hardly used long shaft ($450)
-various winch parts/winches with two new plastic tops ordered from Australia (inquire)
-lots of stainless steel hardware including shackles, blocks, cam cleats, screws, line hangers, etc. (inquire to see if you come to buy a boat)
-stanchions, backstay (stainless cable), lifelines (inquire)
-Holder 20 main good practice sail ($100)
-Holder 20 spinnaker good practive sail ($75)
-Holder 20 Bow pulpit, good shape from a Holder 20 converted to Holder 20x ($250)
-Holder 20 boom with reefing hardware, pink, good paint job would help ($75.00)
-7 ft battens, package of 3 ($25.00)
-Holder spinnaker tapered pole, little longer than legal, could be shortened ($75.00)

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Identification of Unknowns by GC-MS and LC-MS Using NIST Search with Commercial and User Libraries

Copy of Talk in PDF

Link to YouTube Video


For the last 20 years, Eastman has routinely employed the NIST search for the identification of unknowns.  Initially, we  primarily utilized EI searches, but in recent years, the increase in the availability and quality of tandem libraries plus associated software has greatly enhanced LC-MS library search results.  More than 50 instruments and associated users are networked at Eastman world-wide.  Our corporate library of >55K entries in NIST format is automatically updated and distributed nightly.

The 2020 edition of the NIST library utilized with the NIST MS 2.4 search software offers many major enhancements.  NIST for the last six years has had an ambitious program to acquire and analyze targeted chemicals (>50,000).  In addition, the novel hybrid search expands the scope of all EI and tandem libraries.  These new improvements and free training resources,  including videos and associated handouts, will be described.  EI/tandem libraries utilized include NIST, Wiley, MoNA, and user-created ones.

ACS 2021 Symposium: Compound Identification with LC/MS and GC/MS: Experimental Method, Data Analysis and Applications

Liquid chromatography and gas chromatography coupled with mass spectrometry (LC/MS, GC/MS) are two major analytical techniques for identifying compounds in complex mixtures. This symposium provides a forum for experts from industry, academia and government agencies to share their novel experimental methods, creative data analysis techniques including mass spectral library searching and software development, and the applications of these techniques, with special emphasis on the use of LC/MS/MS in metabolomics, proteomics, lipidomics, forensics, pharmaceutical and environmental studies.

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Posted by: tvasailor | January 31, 2021

NIST MS Interpreter

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NIST MS Interpreter is a utility developed at the NIST Mass Spectrometry Data Center to assist in the evaluation of mass spectra. The Interpreter finds possible structural origins of peaks in a mass spectrum and provides formula and isotopic processing utilities. It operates in conjunction with the MS Search Program. It works in both nominal and accurate mass modes.

Below are some course resources teaching the use of the program:

Video for EI Use
Handout for EI Use
Video for Tandem Use
Handout for Tandem Use

Below are other resources from NIST:

New Developments Poster
New Enhancements Accurate Mass Tandem Spectra
Basic Description of Program

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Posted by: tvasailor | January 11, 2021

Bread Recipes from Betty Ottenfeld

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In the early 80’s, my Wife Sandra took a bread baking course at the Presbyterian Church. Our family was highly appreciative. Sandra scanned the cookbook handout from the course.

Link to Cookbook Handout in PDF

Picture of Betty, a bird-lover, below:

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Posted by: tvasailor | January 1, 2021

Buying NIST “20” EI and Tandem (MSMS) Libraries

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The new libraries for 2020 include the NIST MS Search Software at no additional cost.

There were major increases in the number of compounds and major software enhancements.

Link to 2020 NIST Updates

The NIST 2020 Tandem library is ridiculously inexpensive, very high quality, and contains 1.3 M spectra!

Be sure to shop around. Here is the total list of distributors:

Total List of Distributors

Here are some good websites that I have noted for distributors. Let me know if you have found others.

Diablo Analytical (convenient same-day ftp download)
Adaptas Solutions (formerly SIS)
Cerno Biosciences
GC Image
MS Wil
Stanton Scientific

The EI library package contains Lib2NIST utility, but not the Tandem one.

Link for Lib2NIST Utility

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MS/MS (Tandem) spectra can be used to identify unknowns employing library searches. This is accomplished in much the same approach as that employed for EI GC-MS with the NIST search software. The much improved NIST Search Version 2.4 is included with the 2020 library release. I will attempt to introduce the user to the use of the NIST Version 2.4 search software employing NIST, Wiley, “crowd-sourced (MoNA)”, and user libraries for the identification of unknowns.

NIST has an ambitious program to extend their already comprehensive, high-quality MS/MS databases. See the following link:

NIST Pipeline for Extending MS/MS Libraries

This involves a very comprehensive process for selecting pertinent compounds for purchase and subsequent analyses. The problem with variability of the spectra is reduced by analyzing the samples on a variety of instruments at a variety of energy levels (20 steps). In addition, many different precursor ions and fragment ions are characterized (MSn). This has already led to a very large high quality library of accurate mass MS/MS spectra in the 2020 release version (31K compounds/1.3 M spectra) and the effort is ongoing.

YouTube Videos

Part I: Overview (17 min)
Part II: NIST MS/MS Search (18 min)
Part III: Detailed Discussion Hybrid MS/MS Search (18 min)
Part IV: Importing MSMS Spectra (11 min)
Part V: NIST Structure Searches (12 min)
Part VI: MS Interpreter (12 min)
Part VII: Creating-Using MSMS Libraries (12 min)
Part VIII: “Spectraless Libraries” (12 min)

Higher Quality Videos Zipped Pt. I-VIII

Detailed Handouts

Part I: Overview 12/27/20
Part II: NIST MSMS Search 12/27/20
Part III: Detailed Discussion Hybrid MS/MS Search 12/27/20
Part IV: Importing MSMS Spectra 12-27-20
Part V: NIST Structure Searches 12-27-20
Part VI: MS Interpreter 12-27-20
Part VII: Using-Creating MSMS Libraries 12-27-20
Part VIII: “Spectraless” Libraries 12-27-20

Handouts Pt. I-VIII_Zipped-12-27-20


Using with Manufacturers’ Data Processing Software
Buy a copy! Distributors of NIST Libraries Shop Around for Best Price!
NIST Tandem Quick-Start Guide
DeltaMass Table in Nominal Mass
Beyond the Top Hit: Information from Hybrid Similarity Search Hit Lists
MS_Interpreter Correlating Structure to Spectrum
Lib2NIST (not included with NIST tandem library)
Importing Spectra to NIST Search (all internet links)
Components in MoNA Libraries
MoNA MSMS Library in NIST Format
MoNA EI Library in NIST Format
MoNA Download Site in MSP and SDF Formats
Resources for NIST EI Searches
PowerShell Script for Adding Precursor_m/z Field to User Library
Users’ Manual for NIST 2.4
NIST Downloads Libraries-Tools-Software
NIST MS 2020 at ASMS

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Posted by: tvasailor | December 11, 2020

Identifying Unknowns Using LCMS and GCMS with Library Searching

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This is a free instructional series including YouTubes, detailed handouts, and miscellaneous resources.

EI GC-MS Identifications: The first part is for EI GC-MS identifications and is accessed at the following link:

Link to EI GC-MS ID of Unknowns with NIST Search

LC-MSMS Identifications: The second part is for LC-MS-MS identifications and is accessed at the following link:

Link to LC-MS-MS ID of Unknowns with NIST Search

Using with Manufacturers Data Processing Software:

Link to Instructions

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Thanks to Wikipedia for Graphics in Header

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Above Image from Wikipedia

The Thermo GC Orbitrap is a very powerful tool for the identification of unknowns easily switching from EI to CI modes. However, one must be aware of the differences in the EI spectra obtained with the Orbitrap compared to standard quadrupole and magnetic spectra found in commercial and user libraries.

The following links shed some insight into those differences from a mechanistic point of view.

Study Comparing 480 Spectra by Eastman for EI

Literature Reference for EI

Two Other Literature References

Literature Reference for Tandem

Thermo and Personal User’s Libraries:

Thermo has and on-going effort to create a database of EI GC-Orbitrap spectra. Release Version 1.0 contains 766 spectra. They are spectra of contaminants related to PCB’s, environmental contaminants, and pesticides.

A user should also consider adding spectra to their personal NIST library noting the origin of the spectrum. I believe that in 70-80% of the cases the hit will be lower (700-800 fit). If no other spectrum from a standard quadrupole is present, the user will still find the EI orbitrap spectrum at the top of the list. Smaller MW compounds and TMS derivatives might be more confusing yielding much lower hits.

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Posted by: tvasailor | October 11, 2020

Excel DeltaMass Table for Hybrid Searches

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The Excel spreadsheet of DeltaMass values is very useful for determining the identity of a compound in a NIST hybrid EI or tandem library search. The values listed in the spreadsheet are common ones that I have found in my evaluation of EI library spectra. They are also finding to be useful in accurate mass Tandem (MS/MS) hybrid searches in LC-MS analyses.

An odd DeltaMass value is indication that the number of nitrogens has changed by an odd number. Similar to nitrogen rule for molecular ions and their fragments in EI interpretation. Currently in nominal mass, but would be nice to have in accurate mass in future!

Excel DeltaMass Table (June 2021, 594 entries)

Free Training Videos and Associated Handouts

YouTube Advanced NIST Hybrid Search of EI Spectra
YouTube Advance NIST Hybrid Search for MS/MS (Tandem) Spectra
Handout NIST Hybrid Search of EI Spectra
Handout NIST Hybrid Search of Tandem (MS/MS) Spectra

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Posted by: tvasailor | October 6, 2020

Agilent Deconvolution Reporting Software (DRS)

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Agilent DRS combines Chemstation-like software with AMDIS and NIST search to generate customer reports of target compound analyses.

Link to Software Products

Links to YouTube Videos

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